Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Faith in Democracy

Dry Bones cartoon - DemocracySometimes I don't go for "funny".
Sometimes I try to debunk a pleasant but self-delusional belief by showing its obvious falsity.
Sadly, this is one of those times.

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At 11:07 AM, Anonymous Fivel said...

Ah, yes Bones.

It shows the difference in values between the Arabs and the West. But a lot of people choose to be ignorant and believe that all people have similar goals and values. I used to be one of them.

 
At 1:28 PM, Blogger Sabba Hillel said...

Except that Iran does not really have "democracy". In Iran people get to choose whoever the mullahs have ready for them to choose. You are right though. If people are a bunch of fascist self-serving murderers, democracy will mean that they will choose a self-serving fascist murderer as a leader.

Democracy means one man, one vote, one time.

 
At 4:04 PM, Blogger Don Radlauer said...

Fivel: Iranians are not Arabs. In addition, there is every reason to believe that a majority of Iranian citizens actually favor a very different foreign (and domestic) policy than their government does.

Sabba Hillel: As you say, the vote in Iran was anything but "democratic". The voters were not presented with any real choice: they could choose between one style of extremist Islamist and another style of extremist Islamist, but they had no option of voting for a non-Islamist or even for a non-extreme Islamist.

From things I've read recently, it appears that voter turnout in the last Iranian election was much lower than reported: perhaps as low as 20%. Not a terribly successful exercise in democracy!

 
At 4:39 PM, Anonymous Paul said...

Somehow I doubt that the "Arab world" will ever be a bulwark of democracy.

 
At 8:21 PM, Blogger Frummer????? said...

Are they really democratic?

Were the elections fair, were other "free speaking" candidates allowed to run?

I think not.

That's not democracy, and it's not that type of democracy which people want the Arabs to be granted.

 
At 11:30 PM, Blogger Batya said...

Like in Germany, democracy and Hitler, who got into power through democratic means.

 
At 8:04 PM, Blogger L.Austin Bernard said...

The Iranian election was fraudlent dude

 
At 11:03 PM, Anonymous Spike Cohen said...

Iran's "democracy" is a joke. The Mullahs decide who is allowed to run, the pro-mullah militias intimidate most of the population from voting, and Iran doesn't allow international observers to monitor the process.

Iran will have democracy after we (the US) bomb their military into the stone-age, and the pro-democracy youth can take over.

 
At 9:04 PM, Blogger Super awesome dude said...

It's weird how Americans claim they want mid-east democracy but they have problems with all the Arab states that already are democracies (like palestine)

 
At 9:05 PM, Blogger Super awesome dude said...

Iran is a democracy most religous leaders were backing Ahmadinajads oponents anyway.

 
At 11:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iran was a thriving democracy under the popular Mohammed Mossadegh until the CIA overthrew him in 1953 and replaced him with the brutal Shah. Look up Operation Ajax.

 
At 5:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Palestine is not a state dude, and voting in a party the western world considers a virulent terrorist organization is hardly what were looking for here

 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Jack said...

http://roberts-report.blogspot.com/2008/11/barak-obama-and-democracy-in-central.html
http://wwwtheamericandissidentorg.blogspot.com/2009/05/testing-waters-of-democracy.html
http://democracywatch-rwanda2010.blogspot.com/2010/02/rwandas-ethnic-card-who-is-manipulating.html
http://hapakenya.blogspot.com/2008/01/democracy-has-failed-what-next-for.html

 
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